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Post  Rofel Sun Nov 09, 2008 3:35 am

Feel free to ask post any questions about lots, relics, etc.
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Post  Guest Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:06 pm

Why can't i lootwhore WHM! Stupid low lots D:

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Post  Lefty Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:54 pm

There's always 1 in the crowd Razz
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Post  Darkscorpion2 Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:22 pm

We need a section of lotting rules Dyna qufim, dune, and buri.

I can't fine it, if there is one some where already.

Please put under Dyna rules. Thx Very Happy
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Post  Kailengal Wed Nov 26, 2008 3:08 pm

Why don't we ever have orgies?

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Post  Xcy Wed Nov 26, 2008 3:54 pm

P.M Disturbedcreep about that

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Post  Aleczan Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:09 pm

Okay, since I've raised a question during your Dyna-Beaucedine today, I've come here to post and clarify my question.

I've read all the rules on the board many times, trying to understand every bit of it.
I've listened (read) the rules during a brief at Dyna-Valkurm.
I've also been in a Dyna-Windurst (which had no briefing about lotting rules, because they're posted here already.)

I can't say I'm having a hard time understanding the rules.
It's just like that I've read them in theory, but I haven't been in the real situation so I don't have the full picture of how they're applied.
And some rules have a note on being situational.

Now what I noticed was that 2 people that had set WHM piece as ALT lot, chose not to lot it.
This, I perfectly understood. It was because they're looking forward for their MAIN pick to drop on this run.
They didn't want to have a bad "lucky win" on ALT and lose the chance to lot their MAIN.

Where I lost track of the rules wasn't that but......

You may NOT lot 100 as ALT lot <<< Understood. If I pick to lot 100, I cannot lot other things except free lot

If you choose to lot on your ALT lot, you can NOT lot on your MAIN lot if you win <<< Simple, understood

If you choose to lot on your Main lot, you can NOT lot on your ALT lot if you win <<< Simple, understood

Therefore it means I can CHOOSE NOT TO lot on ALT if I'm hoping more for MAIN, or vise versa. Understood very well.

Only one main/alt AF or 100 may be lotted and obtained per run.... exception being FREE lot only <<< Simple, understood

You may NOT change your lot unless it is for FREE LOT. <<< Now this was a bit difficult, I didn't know how free is free. (But now I know.)
But....but..... what action is called "change your lot?" - This means that you can not change your seacom and pick another piece to lot during the run
See bottom "Free Lot" for rules.

:::Free Lotting:::

Free lotting comes about when an AF drops that no one has as their main lot or alt lot for a particular zone.
This brought up my question, because there were obviously 2 people who had it as ALT.
So I became unsure if the free lot rule was applied. (Now I know it was applied.)
- This became free lot because the 2 people who had it as ALT lot chose not to lot it

Leaders will call out when an AF is free lot. At that time if you wish to lot you may do so. <<< Understood.
It does not affect your main or your alt lot. <<< Understood.

This applies to all zones. <<< Understood.


And to tell you the truth, since I didn't know how free was the free lot, and I didn't know what was free or not...
I didn't dare to lot the Relic Knuckles in my first run.
I found out later that Relic weapons spam-drop in Dyna, and therefore are automatically free.
(It was so free that no one mentioned it, too.)
I didn't have enough time to ask or check if anyone lot it at all.
Because it was my first run and I was trying hard to concentrate and do my roles.
I know it's not a useful piece if I'm not unlocking it through the end, but well, I love monk and a display piece still makes me drool.


Well, that's enough clarification on my part for Free Lotting question.



Next, the point deducted in specific zones....

Since I was there on Dyna-Valkurm (just to listen to the briefing) I noticed that the CoP zones (or maybe only Valkurm?) had different rules from Cities and Xarcabard.
I can't remember them all but it's like 5 points will be deducted from winning MAIN or ALT.
There were 2 categories, the AF piece, and the AF- piece to keep for upgrade.
It is possible to win a lot on AF, and win a lot on AF- in one run because they're counted separately.


And in addition from AF and AF-, there is a 3rd category.
A person can choose 1 thing from a) 100, b) cape?, c) belt?

Winning a lot on anything declared "FREE LOT" will still cost 2 points.
(I am not sure if this is for all 3 categories or just the 3rd one.)

Ummm... but winning the 100, or cape, or belt when it wasn't free, I can't remember if it's 2 points or 5 points.



Anyway, I noticed that for Xarcabard, winning Main or ALT will cost all points to become 0.
For Xarcabard, winning a 100 will cost 5 points.

However, for Cities: Bastok, Windurst, Sandoria, and Beaucedine, it is not mentioned how many points will be deducted for each item.
So, I draw a conclusion that all lotting in Cities do not cost any point?


Whew...

Those are long paragraph of questions.
In short, I just want to ask...
1. If my understanding about free lot is now correct?
2. If someone could please post rules for CoP zones.
And
3. If I'm drawing a correct conclusion that Cities do not cost point to lot anything at all.
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Post  Lefty Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:02 am

Ale, i edited the areas where you may have been a little confused and hopefully filled in the blanks for you. If not just let me know and i'll try to explain it to ya Smile
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Post  Aleczan Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:54 am

Thank you Lefty.
I think so far everything seems clear.
We'll see when I run into practice time of the rules.
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Post  Mogley Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:30 pm

Alec you asked some very god questions.. albeit, mostly rhetorical one's
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Post  Rofel Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:58 pm

I updated the rules as well to clarify some of the confusions you mentioned. Also I'll post the CoP rules soon. I know it doesn't take long but I have to get them out of my macros and I just don't have the time atm. But i'll be sure the spam them before the runs until I have a few moments to post them.

We have so much stuff in the works for Linkaga at the moment I don't want to post things if they will change soon, we are working to evolve as a shell and grow in power.
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Post  Mogley Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:29 pm

I just want some Damn RDm drops in Snow>< What a Face
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Post  Aleczan Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:24 am

Thank you Rofel. I'll be looking forward to it while I work on my CoP missions Smile

And yes it's a good idea to settle down everything before announcing it on the board.
It sometimes creates complication when edit things around.
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Post  Aleczan Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:42 pm

Hello again!
A new question.

Can I give out URL of Linkaga's forum?

Today someone named Enelya sent me a tell asking if I'm in any HNMls or endgame ls, so I said I just joined a Dynamis LS.
The person said that he/she has a WHM75 on other server and is considering a move.
So, he/she wants some information about how well WHMs are doing here on Sylph.

In short, I gave the person Rofel's name and told him/her that I would ask you guys for a permission if I could give out the URL to LS forum.
He/she seems to have some questions to ask.
If it's alright to let Enelya have the URL to this board, I'll send the URL.

But if you prefer not to, please advice me what should I tell Enelya to do.
Like.... who's the best (most convenient for you) person for Enelya to contact regarding query.

Thank you.
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Post  Lefty Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:21 pm

do you know this person? and 1 off the path question for ya, are you really a translator? lol
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Post  Guest Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:30 pm

Can we start following more than 1 assist at a time? I think it'd increase our productivity. 18 melee all on one mob is a bit silly!

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Post  Aleczan Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:34 pm

I don't know the person. Totally a stranger.
I guess my name was amongst the first to come up on /sea WHM 75 result.

Yes I translate English documentary programmes for my company and they dub those into my language.
Your question worries me a bit here, am I using strange sentence structure in my post?
Embarassed
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Post  Lefty Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:47 pm

no not strange at all, never met a translator before, just seen them on tv Very Happy
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Post  Aleczan Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:02 am

Oh, I see!

Ooooh Laughing now I feel like I'm famous.


So, do you think I should not let a stranger know the LS Forum's URL?
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Post  Aleczan Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:19 pm

Dear Linkshell,

I think I saw Rofel saying that he only has the CoP Rules in his Macro, but didn't try to transfer it to text for LS board yet.
So, since today there was a confusion about lotting the 100 in Valkurm, I think I might try to help with that.
(Actually I just want to make sure about the rules, so that I won't goof in the future.)

Here is what I copied, word by word, from macro spammed in LS.

CoP Rules

You may comment 1 Main AF II and 1 Alternate AF II
just as in regular cities. Same "if win" scenario applies.
You may also Comment 1 Main AF II -1 that you wish to lot.
You may comment any job you have Lvl.71+ but priority will
go to those that have acquired the based AFII already.
Please denote in your comment if you have the base AFII
required for upgrade with an O or X
O means "I have it" X means "I don't have it"

You may also comment 1 Belt/Cape or 100
You must be Lvl.70+ in the job you wish to lot Belt/Cape.
Belt/Cape will cost 5 points if you win.
100s will be 5 points deduction if you win.
Free lotted Belt/Cape will also be 2 points deduction.

It is possible to obtain 1 AFII, 1 AFII-1, and 1 Belt/Cape/100
Your comment should look as follows:
Main: PLD Alt: RDM
Main: BST-1 O
Acc: Ninja Belt

Well, since macro has limited space for each line, and it's very difficult to explain everything clearly in LS chat, unlike on the forum, there could easily be a misunderstanding.
As for the 100 vs. accessory lotting, when I look closely, it really can be read both way.
So it would be great if you can clear the confusion or elaborate each rule.

As for now, as far as I understand, on each run it is possible to comment lot and to also win lot on 3 pieces of thing from 3 categories.
1) AFII, by picking either from main or alt.
2) AFII-1
3) Either one of Belt/Cape/100 (Costing 5 pts if win, costing 2 pts if win from free lot)

Please correct me if I am wrong.

With lots and lots of love,
Aleczan.
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